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Topic: Trump the great negotiatir?
Posted by: Richard Carter
Date/Time: 20/10/25 19:06:00

Trump has done well so far and credit for that, but this is only beginning: will the ceasefire even hold? And what now for the Gazans in their devastated homes?

But this isn't about Gaza, it concerns the appalling way he's mishandled negotiations over Putin's vile invasion of Ukraine. The latest meeting of Trump and Zelenskyy, as reported in the Telegraph and the FT, was an absolute disaster. In an angry meeting, Trump demanded that Ukraine accept Putin’s peace terms or face destruction. He went on to shout and swear, to throw aside Ukrainian maps of the battlefield and pressured Zelenskyy to surrender the Donetsk region to Russia. He also echoed Putin’s talking points, despite their contradicting his own recent assessment that Moscow was a “paper tiger.” What isn't clear is how far he went in this: did he accept Putin's claim about the supposed root causes of the war, which included demanding Zelenskyy resign so he could install a puppet regime and reduce Ukraine's armed forces to next to nothing?

But - and this is extraordinary - he went on to deny the reports overnight and called for a ceasefire along the current front line! What a way to conduct a foreign policy!


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Trump the great negotiatir?20/10/25 19:06:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Trump the great negotiatir?20/10/25 19:17:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?20/10/25 20:31:00 Ivonne Holliday
      Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?20/10/25 20:31:00 Ivonne Holliday
      Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?20/10/25 20:38:00 Ed Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?20/10/25 21:31:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?20/10/25 23:17:00 Ed Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?21/10/25 09:59:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?30/10/25 01:36:00 Ed Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?20/10/25 22:47:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?20/10/25 23:32:00 Ed Robinson
   Reply21/10/25 00:21:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply21/10/25 01:04:00 Ed Robinson
         Reply21/10/25 10:23:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Reply21/10/25 10:51:00 John Hawkes
               Reply21/10/25 15:42:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Reply30/10/25 01:38:00 Ed Robinson
   Re:Trump the great negotiatir?21/10/25 11:33:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?21/10/25 16:57:00 Sue Hammond
         Reply21/10/25 17:34:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Reply21/10/25 20:18:00 Gerry Boyce
               Reply21/10/25 20:36:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Re:Trump the great negotiatir?22/10/25 11:18:00 John Hawkes
   Reply21/10/25 17:35:00 Michael Ixer
   Re:Trump the great negotiator?21/10/25 23:05:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?22/10/25 18:49:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?22/10/25 20:32:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?22/10/25 20:42:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?22/10/25 20:48:00 Robert Wheeler
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?22/10/25 22:51:00 Gerry Boyce
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?23/10/25 00:40:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?23/10/25 13:01:00 Gerry Boyce
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?23/10/25 11:10:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?23/10/25 14:21:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?23/10/25 20:36:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Reply23/10/25 11:33:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply23/10/25 13:26:00 Robert Wheeler
         Re:Re:Reply23/10/25 13:37:00 Gerry Boyce
         Re:Re:Reply23/10/25 14:14:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Reply23/10/25 15:15:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Reply23/10/25 17:44:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Reply23/10/25 15:11:00 John Hawkes
         Reply23/10/25 16:08:00 Michael Ixer
            Reply23/10/25 16:24:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Reply23/10/25 18:16:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Reply24/10/25 00:51:00 Gerry Boyce
                     Re:Re:Re:Reply24/10/25 08:54:00 Steven Rose
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/10/25 09:56:00 Gerry Boyce
                     Re:Re:Re:Reply24/10/25 10:50:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Reply24/10/25 10:45:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Reply24/10/25 12:25:00 Sue Hammond
                  Re:Re:Re:Reply25/10/25 21:19:00 Steven Rose
                     Reply25/10/25 22:09:00 Sue Hammond
                        Re:Reply26/10/25 07:11:00 Steven Rose
                        Re:Reply26/10/25 07:11:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/10/25 12:21:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Trump the great negotiator?26/10/25 12:16:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?26/10/25 13:28:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?26/10/25 14:28:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?26/10/25 14:49:00 Robert Wheeler
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?26/10/25 15:11:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?26/10/25 15:02:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?26/10/25 20:27:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?27/10/25 08:41:00 Richard Carter
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?27/10/25 18:08:00 Steven Rose
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?28/10/25 11:05:00 John Hawkes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?28/10/25 11:39:00 Richard Carter
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?28/10/25 12:57:00 Steven Rose
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?28/10/25 13:44:00 Robert Wheeler
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trump the great negotiator?30/10/25 01:51:00 Ed Robinson

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